Wednesday, January 25, 2006
Enormous Reformed MP3 Source
I don't know how many of you have heard of Mount Olive Tape Library, but they are a wonderful ministry striving to make Reformed preaching and teaching available inexpensively.

Their latest effort is to convert their large library into MP3s. So far, they have posted hundreds of free MP3s online. Check out these speakers and series. They should keep one busy for a while.

I plan on starting with Cornelius Van Til's "Philosophy and Apologetics" series as well as a debate over baptism between Robert Strimple and Fred Malone. Great stuff! If only these files had better sound quality. Regardless, there is a ton of worthwhile material here. I suggest checking it out.
posted at 10:45 AM  
Comments (4)

At 5:30 PM, Blogger Kenan said...

Thank you. I just added this site to my sermon list at my blog.

At 8:18 AM, Anonymous Gordon said...

I recommend that before you spend time on Van Til that you read Gary Crampton’s “Why I Am Not a Van Tilian ( ). Here’s the second paragraph:
Yet, as impolitic as it was to challenge the teachings of Dr. Van Til, his system left me without answers to far too many questions; it produced a strange melange of logical antinomies. How can one be a presuppositionalist and still believe that there are proofs for the existence of God? How can one be in the orthodox camp of Christianity and maintain that the God of Scripture is both one person and three persons? How can one read and understand the Scriptures if there are so many humanly irresolvable contradictions in them? How can one stand for the Christian faith and at the same time endorse a form of irrationalism? The answer to all of my questions was simple: One can’t. And neither does one have to. It was Clark, through Talbot, who pointed this out.

At 9:57 PM, Blogger TKerns said...

Gordon: As a thoroughgoing Van Tilian of the Frame stripe, I couldn't help but respond here.

When John Frame spoke to the PhD students on campus at Southern Seminary two years ago, he was asked about this very issue. His response was marvelous: "For a person to believe Van Til was not interested in proofs is to misunderstand the true Van Til." He then offered his view of Van Tilian apologetics: "If Joe on the street can be reached by my discussing proofs, then I turn into Josh McDowell. However, if Joe on the street can be reached by my discussing worldview foundation questions and presuppositions, then I discuss presuppositions."

Greg Bahnsen, in his masterful work on Van Til, also brings out the point well. He notes that Van Til is oft misunderstood on the issue of proofs. It is not that Van Til was not interested in proofs, Bahnsen argues, but Van Til simply knew that others at Westminster were already working in that area. Yet, no one was working in the area of presuppositions. Thus, Van Til was filling a void at Westminster. Bahnsen then has quotes from Van Til in which Van Til said he would have used proofs if necessary, but most often found presuppositions the area in which he excelled for evangelistic purposes.

At 12:12 AM, Blogger John said...


You should definitely check out two blog posts that directly deal with Crampton's article:

1) Why I'm not a Cramptonian
2) Van Til's Serious Trinitarian Theology

All too often I have found that those critical of Van Til have never actually stopped long enough to seriously consider his views.


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